tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post665450756659319484..comments2023-10-10T04:30:38.687-05:00Comments on Deo volente: The Chancellor's latest email on tenureDave Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-55063386482503758462011-10-06T23:40:55.059-05:002011-10-06T23:40:55.059-05:00I agree with Socrates Finger with regard to his ar...I agree with Socrates Finger with regard to his argument against seniority-based layoffs. HOWEVER, my comments were in the context of the FA's more subjective "leave-it-up-to-us" joint determination language and also the subjective post hoc termination language of the AAUP. <br /><br />Given what the FA is demanding - and the even worse AAUP language - I would prefer something Jonathan Beannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-30146438623730638102011-10-06T08:46:22.810-05:002011-10-06T08:46:22.810-05:00Sorry Dave, I am not buying that argument. The de...Sorry Dave, I am not buying that argument. The definition of a financial exigency is a fiscal situation that "threatens the existence of the institution as a whole". Such a dire eventuality is very unlikely, but not impossible. It could be precipitated slowly, for example by deep erosion of enrollments, but in those situations we would likely have time to take steps (such as closing Socrates Fingernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-89848279762611469142011-10-05T21:30:04.378-05:002011-10-05T21:30:04.378-05:00Lots of folks have raised substantial concerns abo...Lots of folks have raised substantial concerns about the FA's supposals on financial exigency. But as bargaining over these issues is ongoing right now --there's been no agreement, but both sides are apparently making some meaningful changes in their positions-I'm not going to devote to the time to thoroughly respond to each here. <br /><br />One general point. We ought to expect the Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-50734237779729908702011-10-05T21:13:27.884-05:002011-10-05T21:13:27.884-05:00Socrates and Anonymous 2:35 make very sensible poi...Socrates and Anonymous 2:35 make very sensible points; we ought to have a FE policy in line with those of other universities. What the FA seems to be proposing (again going off of Randy Hughes's email this morning) does not seem to be in line with what other universities do. If this is, indeed, the FA's stance in the bargaining room, rather than their posturing, I worry a great deal Disgustednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-85291319404280501602011-10-05T18:59:28.911-05:002011-10-05T18:59:28.911-05:00FYI I am 2:53, I am NOT 2:35 (separate posters)
T...FYI I am 2:53, I am NOT 2:35 (separate posters)<br /><br />The concern (one of them anyway) I have with FA Supposal: xx.5.02 is that it fails to consider either merit or programmatic needs. In some departments, multiple independent sub-disciplines are represented and the it is possible that at a given point one of those could be represented by a single tenure track individual, whereas another Socrates Fingernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-70091769086724086532011-10-05T18:25:17.566-05:002011-10-05T18:25:17.566-05:00Your last point is a good one (Anonymous 2:53). Th...Your last point is a good one (Anonymous 2:53). Thanks for the links (though none are as demanding as the FA supposal). <br /><br />For all the talk of "solidarity," if you read the FA supposal, they insist that all other staff categories by cut first. <br /><br />To take a phrase from the history books, we are the "labor aristocrats" who claim to represent Labor but will Jonathan Beannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-5648418306590882742011-10-05T14:53:54.529-05:002011-10-05T14:53:54.529-05:00One more aspect to consider in this discussion:
FE...One more aspect to consider in this discussion:<br />FE affects Everyone on Campus, Every employee and every student. That's considerably over 20,000 people. The FA represents ~700 T/TT employees of which about 1/3rd are actual members. <br /><br />Why should the BOT enter into a contract that basically gives the FA the right to control a decision that will affect literally thousands of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-84644186074559613562011-10-05T14:35:09.368-05:002011-10-05T14:35:09.368-05:00Jonathan Bean is making an excellent argument--and...Jonathan Bean is making an excellent argument--and one that I also raised on the "Why Strike" thread. The language the FA is apparently STILL insisting upon (per Randy Hughes's latest email) would fatally compromise the BOT's fiduciary responsibility; IOW, it would be completely insane for the Administrative bargaining team to agree to it. <br /><br />For more reasonable Anonymous 4:02noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-42732413449582105772011-10-05T14:15:18.914-05:002011-10-05T14:15:18.914-05:00OK, I read the FA supposal demanding joint determi...OK, I read the FA supposal demanding joint determination of financial exigency (FE) by a commission made up of 5 members appointed by FA, 5 by BOT and six votes required. That is AFTER four consecutive state audits and the "burden of proof" on BOT that a FE persists for TWO years. <br /><br />This all sounded so extreme that it would rule out FE in any case imaginable to normal human Jonathan Beannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-79654603508210593072011-10-05T13:22:35.262-05:002011-10-05T13:22:35.262-05:00From FA Supposal:
xx.5.02 When the program review...From FA Supposal:<br /><br />xx.5.02 When the program review(s) has (have) been completed in accordance with Article 9, if faculty lines from a basic academic unit have been identified for layoff, the following procedures shall apply. <br />(a) The layoffs within a basic academic unit shall proceed in the order listed below: <br />i. Temporary and part-time employees; <br />ii. Full-time Jonathan Beannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-11047610433686396532011-10-04T23:25:38.088-05:002011-10-04T23:25:38.088-05:00"The BOT policy does not allow for adequate f..."The BOT policy does not allow for adequate faculty involvement in either declaring or implementing a state of financial exigency. Thus there is still a wide gulf between the two sides."<br /><br />Just get the layoff procedures in with the FE clause. I presume FA wants a bigger role than the Faculty Senate has today (or did in 1973)? <br /><br />At any rate, I'm not sure there is aJonathan Beannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-84066330707886027342011-10-04T22:24:02.169-05:002011-10-04T22:24:02.169-05:00The AAUP recommended procedures can be found here:...The AAUP recommended procedures can be found here: <a href="http://www.aaup.org/AAUP/pubsres/policydocs/contents/RIR.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.aaup.org/AAUP/pubsres/policydocs/contents/RIR.htm</a>.Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-79906533569282958992011-10-04T21:49:47.749-05:002011-10-04T21:49:47.749-05:00Dave,
Could you link to or quote the AAUP guideli...Dave,<br /><br />Could you link to or quote the AAUP guidelines you refer to? Thanks.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-51653966967995451572011-10-04T21:12:07.178-05:002011-10-04T21:12:07.178-05:00Dave,
Thanks for a thorough reply to my question...Dave, <br /><br />Thanks for a thorough reply to my question (posted in the cartoon).Joe Sramekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11440181440339210076noreply@blogger.com