tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post6710492119810011853..comments2023-10-10T04:30:38.687-05:00Comments on Deo volente: Moving onDave Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-91066788913137895492012-05-28T13:53:59.470-05:002012-05-28T13:53:59.470-05:00Paranoid, you are largely right both about willing...Paranoid, you are largely right both about willingness of senators to speak up and about the faculty senate's inability to stop (or perhaps even slow down) major administrative initiatives. On the former, it's important to note that just because the FSN folk and other critics of the FA aren't necessarily fans of the administration. One can dislike the FA for many reasons other than a Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-7107319912791021532012-05-27T22:09:31.775-05:002012-05-27T22:09:31.775-05:00Let us see if the faculty senate can stop or slow ...Let us see if the faculty senate can stop or slow down the axing of departments and faculty lines across this campus--including Dave's own. Ultimately, even the faculty senate will be done away with. all we will be left with is a "university college" minus the "university". The way things have been going so far! This is a very sad state of affairs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-6749393734282032132012-05-27T15:41:49.605-05:002012-05-27T15:41:49.605-05:00The Faculty Senate isn’t filled with silent, acqui...The Faculty Senate isn’t filled with silent, acquiescent administrative worshipers. At Faculty Senate meetings, even Ken Anderson and Kim Asner-Self at times have expressed concern about or disagreement with administrative decisions. <br /><br />On the other hand, Dave writes, “What power the FS has, as far as I can tell, is to slow or stop things that look like poor ideas, and sometimes to paranoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305552154248972937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-67970164712802921902012-05-27T12:22:42.950-05:002012-05-27T12:22:42.950-05:00How many faculty vote? Look at the number of facul...How many faculty vote? Look at the number of faculty who have actually voted for their senators! <br />Very insignificant number of votes are cast and these senators on the faculty senate are therefore not truly representative of their colleges. Hardly anyone cares to vote! The senators should do a study of voting trends and practices in each college!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-28444816646790881122012-05-27T07:49:39.919-05:002012-05-27T07:49:39.919-05:00Jonathan Bean said: "never get in a .....matc...Jonathan Bean said: "never get in a .....match with a skunk (Not that all anons are skunks but the blog air sometimes stunk...)." <br /><br />Jonathan, we know a skunk has been around by the odour it emanates. Drive through the beautiful green campus and you can sense (smell) the perfumoros odor of a skunk that pervades the atmosphere. Do skunks climb trees? Someone told me they saw a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-62619616802239915062012-05-27T07:42:51.185-05:002012-05-27T07:42:51.185-05:00Jonathan,
I agree with almost everything you wrot...Jonathan,<br /><br />I agree with almost everything you wrote here, save a couple things.<br /><br />1) In the time leading up to the strike, the comments in the Southern Illinoisan, primarily because of "Cowboy" and "Smallvoice," were viler than the comments here. It's possible that the comments here have become viler here lately because the Southern tightened their Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-3487052159080853672012-05-27T00:13:35.929-05:002012-05-27T00:13:35.929-05:00Dear Dave,
An eminently sensible decision. Good l...Dear Dave,<br /><br />An eminently sensible decision. Good luck! (You are going to need it with the forthcoming cuts and unfilled positions Poshard mentioned in the news today). <br /><br />On higher-ups not liking this blog, I'm not sure if it is the criticism of them - surely they better have thick skin and they have multi-year contracts. It may be the really bad light of the comments testing05401https://www.blogger.com/profile/17388846145377195962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-49741827645869127712012-05-24T09:31:30.574-05:002012-05-24T09:31:30.574-05:00Why you don't run for senate? Your statement `...Why you don't run for senate? Your statement ``Most senators have their lips tightly sealed. The bow down their heads and pay their respects to the upper echleons of the university community.'' is an insulted statement. Note senators are elected by faculty, not by Admin. Your statement means that faculty at SIUC are silly because they elected these senator? <br /><br />If you don'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-11682888051312819112012-05-24T00:21:59.022-05:002012-05-24T00:21:59.022-05:00A thoughtful comment. But as you note, making issu...A thoughtful comment. But as you note, making issues known to other people is only one way of using whatever influence a chair has, and the internet only one way of reaching other people. Running a blog requires (by my light, and with my logorhea) sounding off on all major controversies. It's that which I don't think I can handle--for practical as well as principled reasons, though I Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-59871381588295695362012-05-24T00:08:19.036-05:002012-05-24T00:08:19.036-05:00Perhaps 9:45 is referring to my ex, presumably wit...Perhaps 9:45 is referring to my ex, presumably without knowing that she's been promoted to that status. There's a continuity problem for ya . . .Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-29838375496852490102012-05-23T23:52:55.312-05:002012-05-23T23:52:55.312-05:00Dave's own words: "I can freely tell my a...Dave's own words: "I can freely tell my administrative superiors what I think of their proposed policies; but once those policies are adopted--policies I may well have to implement as chair--further criticism of them becomes problematic."<br /><br />Policies are not set in stone. Chairs are supposed to lead by example. If a policy is adopted and it is not really beneficial in the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-29853011090959593472012-05-23T21:53:26.323-05:002012-05-23T21:53:26.323-05:00Who is Janet?Who is Janet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-15559501448285696182012-05-23T21:50:45.487-05:002012-05-23T21:50:45.487-05:00What debaters? there are no debates in the Faculty...What debaters? there are no debates in the Faculty Sentate. Most senators have their lips tightly sealed. The bow down their heads and pay their respects to the upper echleons of the university community. There are no positions on anything. Instead there is generally acqueisance on all matters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-30882879744284391102012-05-23T21:45:25.876-05:002012-05-23T21:45:25.876-05:00I suggest that you persuade Janet or some such per...I suggest that you persuade Janet or some such person to take over the blog. Just So you can ensure continuity in point of view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-49981368307069461712012-05-23T16:47:20.412-05:002012-05-23T16:47:20.412-05:00Guess there is nothing left to say except ...
So ...Guess there is nothing left to say except ...<br /><br />So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-65815806793933602642012-05-23T13:02:51.314-05:002012-05-23T13:02:51.314-05:00Thanks for all your good work, Dave. I would real...Thanks for all your good work, Dave. I would really like to see the blog continue, because it provides a counterpoint to the usual spin. At minimum, leave the blog contents online so there is a record of the past two years.keycat02noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-13531419100926122962012-05-23T11:50:35.197-05:002012-05-23T11:50:35.197-05:00All members of the FS are also members of departme...All members of the FS are also members of departments and colleges, so I don't think you've identified any new conflicts particular to me, though the department chair conflict is real enough, as I granted above. My experience is that members of the FS tend to view themselves as representatives of the faculty as a whole, which is how it should be. On the other hand, your premise that Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-65210520752292528832012-05-23T11:40:17.488-05:002012-05-23T11:40:17.488-05:00I've informed Namdar and all others who posted...I've informed Namdar and all others who posted of my decision to step down and invited them to take the thing over if they'd like. I am open to others taking it over as well, though if it is to be a continuation of this blog there should be some continuity in point of view. No takers so far. Other folks can of course easily start their own blogs from scratch--and are welcome to do so, as Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-80039572833739225482012-05-23T08:57:15.502-05:002012-05-23T08:57:15.502-05:00As you note, a department chair serving on the FS ...As you note, a department chair serving on the FS is not without precedent. While the FS is an important deliberative body with (arguably) more influence than a blog, the discussions there are somewhat less visible. And of course, they are buried in administrivia and Byzantine bureaucracy. But at least the debaters there have names and speak from identifiable positions (subject and otherwise).Jonny Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04461895600346750968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-48509536520789834692012-05-23T00:12:25.004-05:002012-05-23T00:12:25.004-05:00On the faculty senate, Dave isn't just represe...On the faculty senate, Dave isn't just representing his department. He is representing the faculty in his entire college. There is a double or triple conflict with Dave being chair of the department of foreign languages and at the same time a member of the faculty senate. What or who is he going to push for? His own department? His college? or the administration?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-22405626454097874502012-05-23T00:03:13.882-05:002012-05-23T00:03:13.882-05:00Hey--wasn't Namdar also one of the people who ...Hey--wasn't Namdar also one of the people who created this blog? NOt just Dave! What does Namdar have to say about taking down this blog?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-54363418659769442362012-05-23T00:01:01.208-05:002012-05-23T00:01:01.208-05:00it was obvious this was coming. Dave has caved in!...it was obvious this was coming. Dave has caved in! For the very reasons outlined, Dave should also step down from the faculty senate. Who will he be representing? the faculty or the administration? isn't there a conflict here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-90815628325607308442012-05-22T21:58:51.157-05:002012-05-22T21:58:51.157-05:00I support the previous posters and fully understan...I support the previous posters and fully understand your reasons. Thanks for providing this critical forum for those of us opposed to what the administration is doing to this university.Tony Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-66032405476332392502012-05-22T20:18:39.942-05:002012-05-22T20:18:39.942-05:00I echo beezer: Thank you and please keep advocatin...I echo beezer: Thank you and please keep advocating for a true, sensible, responsible university.Patrick Dilleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02907686980479319760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-25565037575417298292012-05-22T17:36:44.576-05:002012-05-22T17:36:44.576-05:00Thanks, and good luck!Thanks, and good luck!beezernoreply@blogger.com