tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post3157857819569164786..comments2023-10-10T04:30:38.687-05:00Comments on Deo volente: Library Dean Carlson off to Texas A & MDave Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-81098966187460568282012-01-10T22:21:56.665-06:002012-01-10T22:21:56.665-06:00Students also pay fees to support language labs in...Students also pay fees to support language labs in my department (DFLL). That sounds like an academic fee to me. I'm not suggesting that we should add a library fee, just questioning whether it is indeed not allowed. Often when one hears that X is "not allowed by state law" that is just someone's way of defending the status quo, or trying to turn down a request they don't Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-14508454557755820332012-01-10T19:24:41.864-06:002012-01-10T19:24:41.864-06:00Mike,
I remember that too. Within a year of when ...Mike,<br /><br />I remember that too. Within a year of when I heard that academic services couldn't be funded by fees, <a href="http://bot.siu.edu/meetings/2006/506minutes.pdf" rel="nofollow">the student services building fee</a> was added. Within a year after that, the <a href="http://bot.siu.edu/meetings/2007/0407minutes.pdf" rel="nofollow">building maintenance fee</a> was added.paranoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305552154248972937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-57444463480419959492012-01-10T14:30:21.067-06:002012-01-10T14:30:21.067-06:00I remember years ago Wendler tried to have a libra...I remember years ago Wendler tried to have a library fee for students. It was ruled (by someone) that this is not allowed under state law. YO can only have fees for non academics. Academic funding has to come from tuition or the state. But my remembrance of this is hazy.Mike Sullivannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-5644801766854761472012-01-09T09:13:37.225-06:002012-01-09T09:13:37.225-06:00While we're tossing around blame at the librar...While we're tossing around blame at the library, we should also note that by the end of the fiscal year, the library will have lost about 50% of its staff. This over the course of only a year. I'm not talking turnover, here. The library will have 50% fewer employees this July than last.<br /><br />The transfer of ISS/CTE accounts for the majority of the lost positions, but the library hasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-64928894879187428142012-01-09T09:04:42.255-06:002012-01-09T09:04:42.255-06:00As an anonymous insider, I agree that the funding ...As an anonymous insider, I agree that the funding issues and their results can be laid squarely on Anthony Hall's doorstep.<br /><br />That said, Carlson, at least for the last year, has failed in another aspect: leadership. Even before the ISS debacle, library morale was plunging and staff were looking to the library administration for guidance and encouragement. They got nothing. Carlson Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-57637272732907081232012-01-06T14:31:23.033-06:002012-01-06T14:31:23.033-06:00Concerning your last sentence, Dave - Exactly!It i...Concerning your last sentence, Dave - Exactly!It is now time to raise this issue on Senate and Graduate Council Agendas since these groups sat back and did nothing about this scandal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-3957733346696948692012-01-06T14:05:57.351-06:002012-01-06T14:05:57.351-06:00Those in this thread have much more in common than...Those in this thread have much more in common than not--despite some testy exchanges. I'm very glad to see the informed comments from library insiders. <br /><br />How, then, do we get this discussion out to a wider audience that may allow us to better support the library? And what could we do to support the library? Letters to the editor? "Collective action" in the form of bake Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-1050807172226541132012-01-05T18:27:15.187-06:002012-01-05T18:27:15.187-06:00Why should we donate for something that should be ...Why should we donate for something that should be an essential part of the university? Poshard and Cheng need to be questioned about their wasteful priorities, the latest being new Housing complexes that even Gary Metro criticized in a period of economic retrenchment!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-69228812379145784792012-01-05T17:02:59.333-06:002012-01-05T17:02:59.333-06:00Anonymous (4:18):
None of the comments here claim...Anonymous (4:18):<br /><br />None of the comments here claimed that the patio funds came from anywhere other than private donations. <br /><br />"But imagine, if you will, raising funds not for a brick patio but for bringing the books back--and paying for the shelves required."<br /><br />If I were asked, I would donate at least a week's pay to bring the books back, but the library OR IFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-40426865698671915832012-01-05T16:18:42.642-06:002012-01-05T16:18:42.642-06:00I know for a fact that the patio outside Morris Li...I know for a fact that the patio outside Morris Library was completely funded through private donations and the purchasing of memorial/commemorative bricks and seating. No library funds or state funds were used for this project. All SIU Funding comes from a wide variety of areas and streams of income. Money that is dedicated for building projects by the legislature cannot be used anywhere else. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-89393319411837653922012-01-05T15:28:35.500-06:002012-01-05T15:28:35.500-06:00CDL, Thanks fior your detailed post. It all goes t...CDL, Thanks fior your detailed post. It all goes to show that priorities are wrong on this campus with money going to sport and pet building projects. However, Carlson wanted the new library to resemble the Student centre hence we have a Starbucks coffeee bar there rather than in the Student Center and the end of the library being a place of silence as anyone who has encountered the noisy talk, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-85212213441743893182012-01-05T13:23:47.965-06:002012-01-05T13:23:47.965-06:00It is heartening to see a public discussion of the...It is heartening to see a public discussion of the library and I hope this discussion broadens into a campus-wide issue. I would love to see the books come home to Morris, but that is just part of the problem. Without understanding the library’s budget any new Dean is sure to disappoint almost immediately the expectation of departmental faculty.<br />I have hands-on experience with the materialsCDL Humanities and Fine Artsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-82200204073852419442012-01-05T11:01:49.654-06:002012-01-05T11:01:49.654-06:00Anonymous (10:51)
The patio was around $130,000. ...Anonymous (10:51)<br /><br />The patio was <a href="http://thesouthern.com/news/local/siu/article_60014e8a-d361-11df-871b-001cc4c03286.html" rel="nofollow">around $130,000</a>. <br /><br />When President Poshard says that the university <a href="http://thesouthern.com/news/local/siu-could-lose-million-or-more/article_f2a6f7fe-2f80-11e1-b204-0019bb2963f4.html" rel="nofollow">doesn't have OR IFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-86543904778813849812012-01-05T10:51:25.528-06:002012-01-05T10:51:25.528-06:00I agree with Anonymous 9:04, Scott McClurg, and Be...I agree with Anonymous 9:04, Scott McClurg, and Beth Cox. If you want the books back in the library, talk to the administration and the state of Illinois. <br /><br />Regarding the patio fundraising: the patio cost around $25,000. The compact shelving will cost upwards of $1,000,000. Saying "the brick patio cost rather less" than the shelving is quite an understatement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-87703421515059047552012-01-05T10:46:41.846-06:002012-01-05T10:46:41.846-06:00Beth, thanks for your comment. If Carlson has inde...Beth, thanks for your comment. If Carlson has indeed been pushing as hard as he can to get the books back, and making that a high priority, then my last criticism was ill-founded. It is unfortunate that he responded "thanks, but no thanks", under central administrative pressure, but I suppose initiating a (now successful) job hunt is one rational response to being told by Anthony Hall Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-41184839749377747482012-01-05T10:42:33.868-06:002012-01-05T10:42:33.868-06:00It's high time this issue come before the Facu...It's high time this issue come before the Faculty Senate, do we not agree?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-16566265483925603982012-01-05T10:15:10.843-06:002012-01-05T10:15:10.843-06:00I must give a standing ovation to Anonymous 9:04pm...I must give a standing ovation to Anonymous 9:04pm! As a library faculty member, I could not have said it better myself. I would like to add a couple of things. First, in response to Dave's comment of 12:32am, "Assuming Carlson had the authority to prioritize [the budget]" - my understanding is that he has NOT had the authority for quite awhile, a couple of years, even. Second, the Beth Coxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-75141046366642310812012-01-05T07:26:25.634-06:002012-01-05T07:26:25.634-06:00While I certainly understand the desire to bring t...While I certainly understand the desire to bring the books back and to allow for browsing, I think its shortsighted to see libraries principally (or even mainly) book-warehouses. They really are now better seen as departments of information storage. And its clear that as we head into the future, that means managing technology even more than it means managing books. We may not like it as Scott McClurgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-84748209869376462902012-01-05T07:24:49.371-06:002012-01-05T07:24:49.371-06:00When FA will be off to Texas A & M?When FA will be off to Texas A & M?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-10043256389741041212012-01-05T00:32:15.239-06:002012-01-05T00:32:15.239-06:00Thanks for the informed comment. I know that Carls...Thanks for the informed comment. I know that Carlson wants the books back (he explained as much to me, in a patient email, when I wrote to him about this years ago); certainly I never wanted to imply that "the library faculty" didn't want the books back. The question is whether or not bringing the books back was given adequate priority by those in charge of budgeting--something you Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-50550863198277227962012-01-04T21:04:41.735-06:002012-01-04T21:04:41.735-06:00All right, that’s enough. For crying out loud, pe...All right, that’s enough. For crying out loud, people! Where did you get this idea that the library is the reason that the books aren’t back in the building yet? Can you find a member of the library faculty (including Carlson) who does not want them back? (Answer: you can’t.)<br /><br />Why is it that whenever something happens in the library that negatively impacts the disciplinary faculty Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-6321932011359457722012-01-04T18:51:20.971-06:002012-01-04T18:51:20.971-06:00Like the Outlaw Josey Wales in the souce novel wri...Like the Outlaw Josey Wales in the souce novel written by a Klan sympathizer, Carlson will soon be "Gone to Texas". How coincidental since it is just before he was due to be evaluated. I've heard from a very reliable source that the books in McLafferty will NEVER be returned to Morris since there is not enough space and they knew it when they planned the new library. So don't beAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-89218040637425561492012-01-04T17:39:04.580-06:002012-01-04T17:39:04.580-06:00I'm just pointing out the words "or if&qu...I'm just pointing out the words "or if" that Rod Sievers included in his statement. <br /><br />If you listened long enough on the picket line, you would have heard lots of speculation about what the chancellor might have planned for the library. The two possibilities that you suggest aren't as scary as the scenarios a few librarians with a little imagination can envision.OR IFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-1955550063756691962012-01-04T12:17:20.265-06:002012-01-04T12:17:20.265-06:00A good observation. Are you suggesting that someth...A good observation. Are you suggesting that something big might be under way, that the library as a whole might be folded into the University College structure, for example? Or just that the dean's job might be left open, or with an interim, for a while?Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-80018905479147708952012-01-04T11:32:08.459-06:002012-01-04T11:32:08.459-06:00You presume that there will be a new head of the l...You presume that there will be a new head of the library.<br /><br />"University spokesperson Rod Sievers said Carlson did a great job at Morris Library and SIU wishes him the best as he advances his career. He said it was too early to say when or if a search will begin for a new dean."OR IFnoreply@blogger.com