tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post3823461569669492380..comments2023-10-10T04:30:38.687-05:00Comments on Deo volente: And So It Has Come To This...Dave Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-74786429571335752772011-11-07T13:46:53.433-06:002011-11-07T13:46:53.433-06:00So what's the final outcome going to be? I thi...So what's the final outcome going to be? I think we all lose! Lets face it this the FA really wants to run SIU ( God help us). they want "transparency"-love that word. Transparency defined by who? the longer this goes the bigger chance we have it will turn ugly-real ugly. SIU was already in trouble in a lot of areas and now this! Who is going to repair the damage already done? The Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-86411061344963442642011-11-06T07:22:13.540-06:002011-11-06T07:22:13.540-06:00Free Pag's? Really? Maybe I will join the pi...Free Pag's? Really? Maybe I will join the picket line!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-69804576889686514162011-11-05T03:28:38.358-05:002011-11-05T03:28:38.358-05:00If Pags was offended by your (Anon 11:34) inferre...If Pags was offended by your (Anon 11:34) inferred insult in what Dave said, they didn't show it when they catered the dinner tonight after a second day of picketing.Jonny Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04461895600346750968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-74470530685589196372011-11-04T11:34:04.959-05:002011-11-04T11:34:04.959-05:00Satire or not, I am sure that Pag's was thril...Satire or not, I am sure that Pag's was thrilled when the official spokesman for the FA thanked them for their generosity by suggesting other customers stay away from them! One more example of FA reasonableness and diplomacy at work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-19129996313684199132011-11-04T09:41:45.559-05:002011-11-04T09:41:45.559-05:00To the FA.
Get back to what you are paid to do. ...To the FA. <br /><br />Get back to what you are paid to do. Teaching! Get out of your make believe world and get in the real world. People are without jobs and are struggling to make ends meet. You make a decent wage in what you love to do. I doubt most of you would survive outside your enclosed kingdom.<br /><br />A SalukiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-7743605420711875742011-11-04T09:01:31.823-05:002011-11-04T09:01:31.823-05:00Great job. You have embarressed yourselves, the un...Great job. You have embarressed yourselves, the university, alumni and students. I'm sure those "on the line" are spending most of their time trying to convince each other how smart they are. None oy the strikers now how good they have it. Based on whats happening on campus and once students get used to going back to class you'll discover just how unnessary you really are. countAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-60324756650732235502011-11-04T07:03:54.363-05:002011-11-04T07:03:54.363-05:00The pizza was likely better than the FSN hot dogs,...The pizza was likely better than the FSN hot dogs, although I misses out on the pizza. Needed to rest up for today. But I think Dave's boycott remark was just satire. <br /><br />My understanding is that BOT did not counter our last proposal. Nor did they make a "best & final offer." Bargaining should have continued until dawn. That a BOT team member has been told to teach Mike Sullivannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-22401106957695804982011-11-03T23:11:14.432-05:002011-11-03T23:11:14.432-05:00"Must be difficult keeping up with so many en..."Must be difficult keeping up with so many enemies."<br /><br />"Words are real and have consequences. It is possible to strongly disagree collegialy (notice the root of that word). At some point in the hopefully near future we will all need to work together to repair the damage that is being done...no matter who you blame. Lets make sure we all behave like the highly intelligent paranoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305552154248972937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-70363918289792673712011-11-03T23:04:10.660-05:002011-11-03T23:04:10.660-05:00Boycott? Sure, I have heard of them. Seems a lit...Boycott? Sure, I have heard of them. Seems a little absurd to me to miss out on pizza because the business happens to support a group I disagree with. Hold my opinion and eat my pie, I can. Seems a rather sensible approach. Must be difficult keeping up with so many enemies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-43008706157074213902011-11-03T22:50:57.002-05:002011-11-03T22:50:57.002-05:00Anonymous 10:44 PM:
Really?
Telling the FSN to a...Anonymous 10:44 PM:<br /><br />Really?<br /><br />Telling the FSN to avoid a business that supports an organization that they disagree with is some kind of threat against the FSN. Have you never heard of a boycott?paranoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305552154248972937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-42943827611797892472011-11-03T22:48:22.369-05:002011-11-03T22:48:22.369-05:00Mike, are you sure the BOT is refusing to meet? I...Mike, are you sure the BOT is refusing to meet? I heard it was up to the FA to request a new meeting at this point. Have they done this and been refused?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-31322208880592732092011-11-03T22:44:29.125-05:002011-11-03T22:44:29.125-05:00Dave,
I am not as adept at satire so maybe I'm...Dave,<br />I am not as adept at satire so maybe I'm off base, but are you really suggesting that a group of faculty the FA represents are not welcome at a local business because they are voicing their opinions and exercising their legal rights? Even after they offered you a hot dog? Even Mike said the FSN had better food.<br /><br />Seriously, how we as a faculty treat each other at a time Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-66496214038891481192011-11-03T22:38:13.175-05:002011-11-03T22:38:13.175-05:00Paranoid, I do hope you are right, and 10:09, yes,...Paranoid, I do hope you are right, and 10:09, yes, I honestly do believe that accepting the chancellor's offer is better than engaging in an activity that is clearly self-destructive. If you win, it's a Pyrrhic victory at best.Lord Scabnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-78716443978208567212011-11-03T22:29:28.297-05:002011-11-03T22:29:28.297-05:00I don't see why an informational picket at an ...I don't see why an informational picket at an Open House would be a big deal. I'm not at all involved in any planning and only read about it here. But you can just give out info and encourage people to call the BOT etc. I certainly cannot imagine the point would be to disrupt the event.<br /><br />The real question is why won't the BOT's team meet with ours?Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-29126640110074014922011-11-03T22:22:37.508-05:002011-11-03T22:22:37.508-05:00Or he and Randy may be playing the same game as th...Or he and Randy may be playing the same game as the chancellor -- saying threatening things just to intimidate, regardless of whether the threat (e.g. "qualified substitutes") is real or not.paranoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305552154248972937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-26140198621679436192011-11-03T22:20:21.413-05:002011-11-03T22:20:21.413-05:00Lord Scab,
The last I heard, there were no plans ...Lord Scab,<br /><br />The last I heard, there were no plans for picketing on Saturday. Dave the FA Spokesperson may be hedging because he doesn't want to be held responsible if he says that there are no plans to picket and someone (especially a supporter who isn't part of the FA) "goes rogue" and pickets on Saturday.paranoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305552154248972937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-52862973170800218862011-11-03T22:19:15.241-05:002011-11-03T22:19:15.241-05:00There is a video on the Southern Illinoisan site w...There is a video on the Southern Illinoisan site where Randy Auxier says that the FA has "special plans for the weekend" with a sneer. I could be wrong, but I think Dave Johnson is being disingenuous when he says above that the FA is still finalizing plans for the weekend (and effectively skirting the question). He is smart enough to know that such action would push even more marginalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-50051576122979155732011-11-03T22:09:46.310-05:002011-11-03T22:09:46.310-05:00"And you don't care who gets caught in th..."And you don't care who gets caught in the crossfire."<br /><br />I think we all realize that the victims here are the students. However, that doesn't mean that the FA should shrink from doing what they can to do what they believe is in the long term best interest of the University, themselves, and yes, the students. <br /><br />Or do you believe that simply accepting what the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-54873398141899270862011-11-03T22:05:52.637-05:002011-11-03T22:05:52.637-05:00"The purpose of a strike is to exact costs on..."The purpose of a strike is to exact costs on the other party that they wish to avoid. It would be folly not to use the power of the strike in the context where it would be most effective."<br /><br />And you don't care who gets caught in the crossfire.<br /><br />I guess I finally know what the FA stands for.Lord Scabnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-65017077369106518442011-11-03T21:54:48.231-05:002011-11-03T21:54:48.231-05:00The purpose of a strike is to exact costs on the o...The purpose of a strike is to exact costs on the other party that they wish to avoid. It would be folly not to use the power of the strike in the context where it would be most effective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-21277765390996783222011-11-03T21:45:56.767-05:002011-11-03T21:45:56.767-05:00"The FA has yet to finalize its plans for pic..."The FA has yet to finalize its plans for picketing on Saturday."<br /><br />Can I take that to mean that the FA really is thinking about picketing the Open House? Dave, if that is the case, I urge you to reconsider.<br /><br />Such an action could have a drastic effect on next year's enrollment and precipitate the very job losses that you and the FA are supposedly trying to Lord Scabnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-53441836335205491352011-11-03T21:10:43.404-05:002011-11-03T21:10:43.404-05:00The FA has yet to finalize its plans for picketing...The FA has yet to finalize its plans for picketing on Saturday. <br /><br />The figure of 90 comes from a Southern guesstimate of how many picketers were on the line this morning. We had rather more than that at the end of the day at Strike HQ for a meal kindly donated to us by Pagliai's (FSN, stay clear of Pags). As people shifting in and out of the picket lines over the (cold, rainy day), Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-48337832188384134132011-11-03T18:52:26.778-05:002011-11-03T18:52:26.778-05:00Can someone at the FA PLEASE say that they will NO...Can someone at the FA PLEASE say that they will NOT be picketing the Open House? This is not in their best interest. Or are you trying to get people to think the FSN makes "sense"???!!!<br /><br />Randy, Morteza, Dave -- please let public know it is a false rumor. At least I hope it is false.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-81829053921308327252011-11-03T13:28:26.849-05:002011-11-03T13:28:26.849-05:00A picket at the Open House would be REPREHENSIBLE!...A picket at the Open House would be REPREHENSIBLE! But it would clearly demonstrate that the FA is really about doing as much harm as possible to this university (as if today's strike does not already do that!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-48022840904440595952011-11-03T13:18:33.756-05:002011-11-03T13:18:33.756-05:00Southern Illinois reports that 90 faculty are on s...Southern Illinois reports that 90 faculty are on strike.<br /><br />http://thesouthern.com/news/local/education/article_c88138b8-0627-11e1-8172-001cc4c03286.html<br /><br />I've heard a nasty rumor that the FA plans to picket at this Saturday's Open House event that will bring hundreds of prospective students to campus. I'm hoping that someone from the FA will refute this. Anyone? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com