tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post4179724614072703976..comments2023-10-10T04:30:38.687-05:00Comments on Deo volente: Unions and UnityDave Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-64831966717926731872012-04-15T13:49:21.284-05:002012-04-15T13:49:21.284-05:00Jonny Gray, It will work sooner or later. Period.Jonny Gray, It will work sooner or later. Period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-72473999417715553382011-12-11T20:52:11.362-06:002011-12-11T20:52:11.362-06:00Patrick, I don't know when or if the list will...Patrick, I don't know when or if the list will be publicly released--there may well be privacy issues involved. My understanding is that the FA got a copy early on (meaning Randy Hughes and Jim Clark--I haven't seen it) to enable us to spot problems and help faculty who believe they would be docked for days they weren't on strike. <br /><br />At some point in the not too distant Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-53249816454438388022011-12-10T19:53:18.996-06:002011-12-10T19:53:18.996-06:00There is an official list? Do we need to file a FO...There is an official list? Do we need to file a FOIA request to see it?Patrick Dilleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02907686980479319760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-72464727228205230972011-12-10T19:39:44.519-06:002011-12-10T19:39:44.519-06:00You sure are going to bed early for a Saturday nig...You sure are going to bed early for a Saturday night! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-63148629612687939272011-12-10T19:12:25.159-06:002011-12-10T19:12:25.159-06:00to Ask the Faculty 6.24am
The current number of F...to Ask the Faculty 6.24am<br /><br />The current number of Faculty which went on strike is about 182, this is on the `official' list from the admin. This number is about 20 more than 162, not `far less' as you stated in your post. These are facts, unlike the fake numbers in your post. It would be good if you got your numbers correct before posting.....goodnight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-54278605752848711462011-12-10T13:07:55.131-06:002011-12-10T13:07:55.131-06:00Yes, Dave. The FSN did allow the administration to...Yes, Dave. The FSN did allow the administration to take a harder line than they would ordinarily have done so. But this is waht "scabs" do in any labor dispute. Just ask a labor historian. So you need not be surprised. Neither should they be in terms of the contempt they have evoked. As for the FA as mafia. this is again another fantasy dreamed up by "Rita's pets" similar Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-14792688278878595652011-12-10T11:50:46.415-06:002011-12-10T11:50:46.415-06:00If one is interested in numbers, the FA has now re...If one is interested in numbers, the FA has now received a list from the administration of those they intend to dock pay for striking, and it includes 180 names. The FA will look it over and work with anyone who believes they are on it in error or on it for too many days (if they joined the strike in progress, were at a conference for the first couple of days of the strike, etc.) and attempt to Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-17335617100724888322011-12-10T10:41:02.695-06:002011-12-10T10:41:02.695-06:00I am FSN fans. So what!!!I am FSN fans. So what!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-17093936340259833192011-12-10T10:38:59.052-06:002011-12-10T10:38:59.052-06:00In my department, FA acts completely like mafia. W...In my department, FA acts completely like mafia. When someone does not share their position, the FA members use all possible tactics to against him/her. FA won't last long if they do business as usual. <br /><br />Yes! FSN will move on. If you view your FSN colleagues as enemy instead of partner in dealing with campus issues, you will fail definitely. Obviously the FA leaders are in this Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-9974141127196008812011-12-10T10:30:54.367-06:002011-12-10T10:30:54.367-06:00Yes Jonny, but disapproval of the administration w...Yes Jonny, but disapproval of the administration was also at its peak and likely a stronger sentiment among many faculty that are otherwise unhappy with the FA. Given that you are a vocal FA member, I wouldn't expect you to welcome the FSN petition with open arms.Ask the Facultynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-83159237724713991332011-12-10T10:11:36.479-06:002011-12-10T10:11:36.479-06:00The FSN got 162 votes at a time when disapproval o...The FSN got 162 votes at a time when disapproval of The FA was likely at its height, given the general stress of a strike and a general reluctance of many to engage in one. The FSN got 162 votes even after repeatedly cajoling that signing the petition was not support for the FSN or decertification but merely a "sensible" call for a fully democratic referendum on how we should be Jonny Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04461895600346750968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-91388679156762583492011-12-10T08:04:11.296-06:002011-12-10T08:04:11.296-06:00Dear Ask the Faculty,
162 is pretty close to 146,...Dear Ask the Faculty,<br /><br />162 is pretty close to 146, <a href="http://facultysenate.siuc.edu/agenda_minutes/2011/nov11_minutes.html" rel="nofollow"> the last number of strikers that I've seen from the administration</a>. The administration had an interest in minimizing numbers presented to the public and took some time to figure out who was on strike. Their numbers went up as the paranoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305552154248972937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-48322398106599379142011-12-10T06:35:29.931-06:002011-12-10T06:35:29.931-06:00It seems to me that Dan Nickrent comes from other ...It seems to me that Dan Nickrent comes from other planet, and have no clue what is going on. Don't waste your time to read his comments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-73420462064958066902011-12-10T06:24:55.033-06:002011-12-10T06:24:55.033-06:00The FSN was unsuccessful because (1) most people d...The FSN was unsuccessful because (1) most people don't care enough about these issues to take action and (2) the required timing meant speaking out against the FA at a time when many faculty are unhappy with the administration (including many FSN members even though commenters here will call us "Rita's pets"). The FSN is clearly a threat to the FA or we would not have received Ask the Facultynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-19581825807180774402011-12-09T18:20:40.514-06:002011-12-09T18:20:40.514-06:00162/200 sounds impressive, but, lets remember, it ...162/200 sounds impressive, but, lets remember, it should be 162/650 (approx number of Faculty at SIUC) who support the FSN, which is about 25%, <br />.............. this is much less that the 43% who are currently members of the FA. (The number of supporters of the FA is greater than 43%). So, the FSNers have a long way to go, and a long wait also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com