tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post4996347809865482473..comments2023-10-10T04:30:38.687-05:00Comments on Deo volente: Busy at Strike HeadquartersDave Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-44700750200806961232011-11-03T05:35:29.787-05:002011-11-03T05:35:29.787-05:00To Anonymous October 30, 2011 7:09 PM:
I wish I w...To Anonymous October 30, 2011 7:09 PM:<br /><br />I wish I would have made a bet with you.paranoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305552154248972937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-36372590289870810022011-11-01T13:15:18.710-05:002011-11-01T13:15:18.710-05:00"Anonymous said...
Since Bean is quite h..."Anonymous said...<br /><br /> Since Bean is quite happy for tenure to go, I think we should view his posts according to his particular type of ideology."<br /><br />Precious, just precious. Now I know I am against tenure because of my classical liberal ideology? Thanks for letting me know where I stand because I was ignorant of my unconscious anti-tenure position. I feel like Jonathan Beannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-46907458731886325352011-10-31T22:28:31.215-05:002011-10-31T22:28:31.215-05:00Jason Vollmer and other students.
It's a good...Jason Vollmer and other students.<br /><br />It's a good question, but one I am not qualified to answer (re: suing the university). You (or rather your union family friends) are in a hard place. We know that. And we don't, for our part, play a role in putting you there lightly. For over 485 days we have tried to find a way <i>not</i> to do this! But our Administration is willing Jonny Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04461895600346750968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-31235424744709067512011-10-31T21:25:46.458-05:002011-10-31T21:25:46.458-05:00How exactly are striking faculty going to enforce ...How exactly are striking faculty going to enforce any attendance policy that they may have against their students? If you aren't in class, how can you know who was there? And even if you did know, how could you expect them to do work or attend classes, while you do not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-61356098483043476252011-10-31T19:05:16.166-05:002011-10-31T19:05:16.166-05:00Quiet One says....
Students who don't go to c...Quiet One says....<br /><br />Students who don't go to class during the strike are in the same boat as those who don't go when there isn't a strike. Syllabi are fairly clear about absences and incompleted work.<br /><br />Alternatively...students who go to class during the strike and do the work assigned and receive a grade by a non-striking substitute might find that grade in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-46747613546142445932011-10-31T18:39:54.305-05:002011-10-31T18:39:54.305-05:00Perhaps this is the wrong venue for the question, ...Perhaps this is the wrong venue for the question, but what about students who wish to acknowledge a strike? I am a student here and a student in one of my classes said "I come from a strong union family and I ain't crossin' no picket line" What about those students? Will their grades suffer for not attending class? It would be unfair, I think, to punish those students for Jason Vollmernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-7272536364383812122011-10-31T15:33:47.697-05:002011-10-31T15:33:47.697-05:00Anon: 9: 58 - Go back to watching your Bruce Willi...Anon: 9: 58 - Go back to watching your Bruce Willis movies and remain in FANTASY ISLAND where you belong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-32369934907036606552011-10-31T15:29:13.336-05:002011-10-31T15:29:13.336-05:00To 9:58: Of course, the others will be kneecapped....To 9:58: Of course, the others will be kneecapped. And the FA will help do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-87686607053550878872011-10-31T10:21:30.738-05:002011-10-31T10:21:30.738-05:00Would it be easier to get people on the administra...Would it be easier to get people on the administration side to see things more favorably by framing the issue in terms of what does NOT count as "financial exigency"? I am sure that there can be agreement on a range of scenarios or situations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-33642026840154787622011-10-31T09:58:35.647-05:002011-10-31T09:58:35.647-05:00The University is not going to settle with the oth...The University is not going to settle with the others. While they have been meeting with the FA twice daily since the strike announcement, they have met with the NTT folks once. Once they settle with the FA, the NTT, civil service, and GAs are going to be kneecapped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-27886519488136591812011-10-31T09:51:20.478-05:002011-10-31T09:51:20.478-05:00If the unions are pushed to strike, the students&#...If the unions are pushed to strike, the students' education will be compromised. Would this give the students grounds to sue the university? If the Administration settles with the Faculty but not the other three unions, if will reflect quite poorly on the University. <br /><br />Check out the WSIU Morning Conversation with President Poshard. He seemed just a tad enervated. http://www3.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-87807571470510466372011-10-31T09:28:45.773-05:002011-10-31T09:28:45.773-05:00One easy way to continue to work AND not cross a p...One easy way to continue to work AND not cross a picket line is to have classes meet somewhere off campus. This is harder with large lecture classes, I know, but at least provides a start!Kristihttp://gaunited.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-12896912793490970742011-10-31T08:59:20.644-05:002011-10-31T08:59:20.644-05:00Two observations from an outsider looking in.
All...Two observations from an outsider looking in.<br /><br />All the adminisration really needs to do is settle with the FA. The other three groups will quickly fall in line. Either that, or they'll be on strike for a quite a long time.<br /> <br />I mean, really, none of this stuff is worth striking over. Because the administration doesn't want to give the FA the power to determine if theAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-44160818459364990822011-10-30T23:20:46.214-05:002011-10-30T23:20:46.214-05:00If you are willing to cross a picket line, you can...If you are willing to cross a picket line, you can still return your library book. Of course, it would be simpler to renew the book now or to return it by midnight Wed. night if the contracts are not settled by then. <br /><br />From the Chancellor's strike FAQ for students (http://www.chancellor.siuc.edu/labor/faqstudents.html)<br />"Will I be forced to cross a picket line at anytime paranoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305552154248972937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-22872707133879195502011-10-30T23:01:34.626-05:002011-10-30T23:01:34.626-05:00Can I return a Library book if the library is bein...Can I return a Library book if the library is being picketed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-36441026326990526662011-10-30T19:18:46.397-05:002011-10-30T19:18:46.397-05:00"and everyone knows it"
Uh, does that m..."and everyone knows it"<br /><br />Uh, does that make me not a person because I don't know that?<br /><br />I won't be surprised if the administration tries to pit the unions against each other, it isn't obvious to me which tactic would be best for the administration.<br /><br />Do they leave the FA out on their own because they have the highest incomes and lowest ability toparanoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305552154248972937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-91749486654449702032011-10-30T19:09:44.491-05:002011-10-30T19:09:44.491-05:00Paranoid, you're kidding yourself if you think...Paranoid, you're kidding yourself if you think the administration settles with those groups first. That's not the smart play, and everyone knows it. I wonder how the faculty are going to feel when there's no one to teach those discussion sections, and they aren't getting their paychecks because there's no one over in Payroll to process the paperwork? But, I'm sure that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-19765947518592823712011-10-30T18:51:58.507-05:002011-10-30T18:51:58.507-05:00One more thing in response to Anon. 4:52 PM and Dr...One more thing in response to Anon. 4:52 PM and Dr. Bean:<br /><br />It could well be that the other locals will settle first, and the FA will be the group left out on its own. <br /><br />I won't begrudge the GAs, civil servants, or NTTs for crossing my picket line and hope that they won't begrudge me if my union settles first and I cross theirs. But I say that with the knowledge that paranoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305552154248972937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-52569970740197121742011-10-30T18:07:23.832-05:002011-10-30T18:07:23.832-05:00We are in the process of finalizing picketing plan...We are in the process of finalizing picketing plans, and those who signed up to work as pickets should be contacted in the next couple of days. There is a training session Tuesday at 6 pm at Strike HQ; while training isn't necessary (unless one is signed up as a "picket captain"), it is helpful. There will be further information on picketing at the 4 local union meeting Wednesday atDave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-51644831821037052952011-10-30T18:01:53.104-05:002011-10-30T18:01:53.104-05:00When has the good Dr. Bean ever stated such a posi...When has the good Dr. Bean ever stated such a position?Disgustednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-57405780990993319562011-10-30T17:54:10.404-05:002011-10-30T17:54:10.404-05:00Since Bean is quite happy for tenure to go, I thin...Since Bean is quite happy for tenure to go, I think we should view his posts according to his particular type of ideology.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-83308048053690123872011-10-30T17:43:08.807-05:002011-10-30T17:43:08.807-05:00Elyse and others, if you are looking for the perso...Elyse and others, if you are looking for the person to contact about volunteering for picket/help duties, George Bricker is coordinating the strike activities. He can be contacted at georgerbricker(at)yahoo(dot)com. <br /><br />There is another picket captain training session Tuesday night at 6 in the Strike Headquarters. You don't have to be a captain to go to that. If you do go to that,Jonny Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04461895600346750968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-8020601852503651082011-10-30T17:21:53.091-05:002011-10-30T17:21:53.091-05:00"How many of you FA strikers are going to cro..."How many of you FA strikers are going to cross the picket lines of those still left striking? My guess - most of you."<br /><br />Presuming FA settles first, then we would have a contract with a no-strike (and hopefully) no-layoff clause. Sympathy strikes are illegal so Jonny is correct: we would have to cross their picket lines OR members would have to vote NOT to settle with a good Jonathan Beannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-36198721999720175262011-10-30T16:52:25.080-05:002011-10-30T16:52:25.080-05:00So, from what paranoid said, it sounds like once t...So, from what paranoid said, it sounds like once the administration settles with the FA, that leaves the NTT, civil service, and grad students on their own? How many of you FA strikers are going to cross the picket lines of those still left striking? My guess - most of you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-48256044664863264582011-10-30T16:06:38.014-05:002011-10-30T16:06:38.014-05:00Wonderful posting, Johnny!Wonderful posting, Johnny!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com