tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post5395572700204336501..comments2023-10-10T04:30:38.687-05:00Comments on Deo volente: Qualified Substitute InstructorsDave Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-91102267923722138232011-11-09T22:57:26.615-06:002011-11-09T22:57:26.615-06:00Yes, indeed, and the Dean of the College of Agricu...Yes, indeed, and the Dean of the College of Agriculture ought to have thought about that last weekend. But I guess that's water under the bridge at some level now. I feel energized by what I and my fellow colleagues achieved, along with much student help, in winning a fair contract for all of us and in changing some of the institutional culture around here. I am sorry you felt you could A less ticked off history professor nownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-4695610593545443032011-11-09T22:36:51.151-06:002011-11-09T22:36:51.151-06:00As I alluded to in the other thread, there are cle...As I alluded to in the other thread, there are clearly a lot of hurt (and hard) feelings amongst the faculty caused by the strike, and I fear that this will be the strike's true legacy of damage (not the other stuff I was concerned about). Oh man, not good. <br /><br />For example, both Mike and Ticked-Off... have expressed great disappointment and anger in the different ways the beezernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-20337217103620367572011-11-09T22:05:52.746-06:002011-11-09T22:05:52.746-06:00Hi Anonymous 5:54: This is Jonathan Wiesen. I just...Hi Anonymous 5:54: This is Jonathan Wiesen. I just spent the last week on the picket line defending our tenure rights and academic freedom. I barely check this blog and have not done so in weeks; my wife alerted me to your comment. I did not post the comment above, and I think "outing" anonymous posters on this blog is reckless and unfair. I repeat, I did NOT write any comment above, Jonathan Wiesennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-17560143854741478122011-11-09T21:24:16.868-06:002011-11-09T21:24:16.868-06:00Our union dues are rather high. In the future, esp...Our union dues are rather high. In the future, especially, if a need should arise to go on strike,<br />it would be good to set aside some of our dues towards a reserve fund to pay the faculty who go on strike. As the administration has been so petty as to not grant the faculty pay for the strike days even on the condition that they would make up the classes that they missed, in future we cannotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-54430280280677531962011-11-09T20:52:27.789-06:002011-11-09T20:52:27.789-06:00In fact both people above are wrong, the true amou...In fact both people above are wrong, the true amount for a yr of FA membership is 63 times 10=630 bucks, reason= 8 full months and two half months, August and May. 63 bucks is taken from these 10 `months' salary,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-47266193341620782522011-11-09T19:01:43.538-06:002011-11-09T19:01:43.538-06:00Those of us that have been around the history depa...Those of us that have been around the history department know exactly how it treats those in its own department. Just ask Dr. Bean about how they treated him when they didnt agree with him on something. I believe its called academic bullying.<br /><br />http://thesouthern.com/news/article_d8878df8-09a4-57a4-8a1c-53c9b98d00cf.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-25595260407608383782011-11-09T18:51:43.969-06:002011-11-09T18:51:43.969-06:00One very ticked off history professor said, "...One very ticked off history professor said, "There may be an instance where Dean Winters might need my support for something he wishes to achieve. I am not saying that I will necessarily vote the exact opposite way (if I happen to be on FS at the time), but that I cannot condone nor accept what he just did to my academic discipline and to the collegiality that I expect him to have toward me Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-86737886895536007402011-11-09T17:54:30.161-06:002011-11-09T17:54:30.161-06:00One ticked off History Professor or Jonathan S. Wi...One ticked off History Professor or Jonathan S. Wiesen you've outed yourself with the Faculty Senate comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-48878598274216043142011-11-09T17:25:30.608-06:002011-11-09T17:25:30.608-06:00Nor can the rest of the campus community condone o...Nor can the rest of the campus community condone or accept what this strike has done to our university.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-44150191920580733132011-11-09T16:56:47.064-06:002011-11-09T16:56:47.064-06:00Beezer: In South Africa after Apartheid was all ov...Beezer: In South Africa after Apartheid was all over, they established a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Now, before you get upset, I am not at all comparing the strike here at SIUC with South Africa, except for this one small insight: individuals need to be held to account for decisions they did. In the case of my colleague Jon Bean, I have no problems at all resuming conversations with One very ticked off history professornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-40360054418120370982011-11-09T15:32:16.782-06:002011-11-09T15:32:16.782-06:00To Anon. 1:35.
Fair enough. Things are different...To Anon. 1:35.<br /><br />Fair enough. Things are different in different departments. I also accept the possibility (not the certitude quite yet) that SIUC spends a differentially high fraction of its money on administrative lines compared to comparable institutions (here, I mean other PhD-granting public research institutions of similar size, infrastructure, etc.). Perhaps the FS should beezernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-17800881902371749722011-11-09T13:46:27.325-06:002011-11-09T13:46:27.325-06:00"You bonehead--most faculty's yearly cont..."You bonehead--most faculty's yearly contract is only for nine months."<br /><br />Geez, I thought I'd be taken to task for calling professors "privledged elites."<br /><br />Guess that's OK afterall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-32721070607162160992011-11-09T13:37:03.724-06:002011-11-09T13:37:03.724-06:00I've appreciated your comments, beezer and Dr....I've appreciated your comments, beezer and Dr. Bean. As others have resorted to pettiness and name-calling, you two have consistently shown yourselves to be above such behavior. I applaud you for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-40564862828894094332011-11-09T13:35:10.993-06:002011-11-09T13:35:10.993-06:00Beezer:
In many departments chairs do NOT teach....Beezer: <br /><br />In many departments chairs do NOT teach. They also get a significant reduction in their teaching load regardless of the size of the department. Also, they get 12 months salary (not money from grants). They do not teach courses in the summer. Period. The department chair example was just an example. This applies to all other administrators as well--including Associate Provost(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-43558031380109079392011-11-09T13:33:26.647-06:002011-11-09T13:33:26.647-06:00Jon,
I think the issue with Todd is the seemingly...Jon,<br /><br />I think the issue with Todd is the seemingly glib attitude of his face book post. He might consider apologizing for that. Most us understand that administrators are expected to do what they are told. I have no resentment toward the administrator who took over my class last week. I doubt I will forgive the actions of my retired colleague. He has not written back. <br /><br />I wishMikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-58698296296676691952011-11-09T13:30:40.025-06:002011-11-09T13:30:40.025-06:00Anon 12:48 wrote:
"Take for example, chairs ...Anon 12:48 wrote:<br /><br />"Take for example, chairs of departments--why do they get 12 months salary--when hardly any courses are taught--plus they get a whole month off for vacation (paid vacation)."<br /><br />Are we chair-bashing now? Our chairs are our departmental colleagues and could be you or me one day--who knows. I've never been chair, but I've served as a chair'beezernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-54853961834259068202011-11-09T13:22:31.450-06:002011-11-09T13:22:31.450-06:00One very ticked off... wrote:
"No, Todd Wint...One very ticked off... wrote:<br /><br />"No, Todd Winters burned a lot of bridges with the history faculty for his bone-headed move. So, too, did Dean Leonard. As the academy's memory-minders, we historians will remember this."<br /><br />That attitude exemplifies what is precisely the biggest concern many have with the FA. When this is all over--and we all hope that is soon-beezernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-85118014118993840232011-11-09T13:21:55.338-06:002011-11-09T13:21:55.338-06:00Dr. Bean, you should be out there on the picket li...Dr. Bean, you should be out there on the picket lines with your history colleagues instead of holding forth and going on and on this blog. Spend your time more usefully!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-44660169238359945712011-11-09T13:19:40.058-06:002011-11-09T13:19:40.058-06:00Anonymous: 12:48
You bonehead--most faculty's ...Anonymous: 12:48<br />You bonehead--most faculty's yearly contract is only for nine months. We get paid for nine months of the year. But I and other faculty still work during the 3 months of the summer--on our research, independent readings and research courses that our students take, thesis and dissertation advisees. We don't stop working! Ont eh other hand, administrators for the littleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-59901298126305635272011-11-09T12:48:35.577-06:002011-11-09T12:48:35.577-06:00"You don't even seem to realize that most..."You don't even seem to realize that most or nearly all faculty are paid only for 9 months during the year."<br /><br />So the privledged elite works for only nine months a year? And they're on strike?<br /><br />Brilliant!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-11785617478293883802011-11-09T12:38:42.450-06:002011-11-09T12:38:42.450-06:00"Give the poor man a break" pleads my es..."Give the poor man a break" pleads my esteemed colleague Dr. Jon Bean. I would if Dr. Winters hadn't had the arrogance and hubris to think he was qualified to step inside that classroom at all. And he did a lot more than take attendance! He outlined the textbook chapter for a good thirty-five minutes.<br /><br />No, Todd Winters burned a lot of bridges with the history faculty One very ticked off history professornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-89610530303582245842011-11-09T12:28:09.066-06:002011-11-09T12:28:09.066-06:00Anonymous 10:34AM says:
1. "When Mike says ...Anonymous 10:34AM says:<br /> <br />1. "When Mike says the administration is morally and intellectually corrupt, one wonders if he should be teaching at a university." <br /><br />2. "Or is his doctorate in a field that does not encompass critical thinking? "<br /><br />3. "Afterall, this is a labor dispute over money and job security."<br /><br />Well, either you Jerzy (Jurek) Kocikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00805320069651447851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-79983422265670357742011-11-09T11:45:22.882-06:002011-11-09T11:45:22.882-06:00Anonymous 9:57: I am a tenure track faculty member...Anonymous 9:57: I am a tenure track faculty member with one of the lowest annual salaries in the FA bargaining unit. I also have a 12 month contract. I am not, nor have I ever been, an administrator. I am not the anonymous poster who miscalculated union dues above, but I wanted to point out that you are alienating your allies by accusing those on 12 month contracts of being "administrators&Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-71730344659042465532011-11-09T10:34:03.803-06:002011-11-09T10:34:03.803-06:00When Mike says the administration is morally and i...When Mike says the administration is morally and intellectually corrupt, one wonders if he should be teaching at a university. Or is his doctorate in a field that does not encompass critical thinking? Afterall, this is a labor dispute over money and job security.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-20981946967533038522011-11-09T10:21:01.320-06:002011-11-09T10:21:01.320-06:00Winters is no longer teaching 101A. The DE reporte...Winters is no longer teaching 101A. The DE reported that Dr. Betsy George is teaching that class (which she has taught before). She has a PhD in history. <br /><br />Don't know if Winters is teaching any other history classes but all he did was show up the first day until they found a replacement. So give the poor guy a break.Jonathan Beannoreply@blogger.com