tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post7659972686976219978..comments2023-10-10T04:30:38.687-05:00Comments on Deo volente: Sunday CartoonDave Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-59938604215550288622011-10-28T19:16:12.141-05:002011-10-28T19:16:12.141-05:00Obviously not since they are critical of "you...Obviously not since they are critical of "your" position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-79339280251876073982011-10-28T15:01:00.830-05:002011-10-28T15:01:00.830-05:00Again not really. I have the right to choose whic...Again not really. I have the right to choose which venue I raise concerns. Furthermore, questions were asked the last time that answered some of the questions I would have also asked had we had more time to raise them - which we did not. So, I think your concern trolling is actually off-putting and meant to shut down discourse rather than further it.<br /><br />Since I am still relatively new Disgustednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-34026040709993205602011-10-28T14:36:09.570-05:002011-10-28T14:36:09.570-05:00The point is that if you have the objections you h...The point is that if you have the objections you have been making on this blog. then you should have asked time to speak out at an official meeting. That you did not speaks volumes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-34189743916497757292011-10-27T22:16:55.437-05:002011-10-27T22:16:55.437-05:00Anonymous 9:46pm
At that very meeting you mention...Anonymous 9:46pm<br /><br />At that very meeting you mention, there was a tiny period at the beginning for non-bargaining related questions, then the bargaining report, then the remainder of time was devoted to strike assessment led by Natasha and George. So, unless you and I were at different meetings, I do not understand your point.Disgustednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-75613994749431861282011-10-27T21:46:22.373-05:002011-10-27T21:46:22.373-05:00As for the idea of negotiating individually for sa...As for the idea of negotiating individually for salary increases with deans let me cite the following case. Before the FA, one (now-retired faculty member) who was both productive in research and a good teacher tried this method with his Dean. The Dean just laughed in his face! <br /> <br />I know of one faculty member who tried the other job offer with one Dean and did not tell him it was a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-77510840993139213182011-10-27T18:27:47.164-05:002011-10-27T18:27:47.164-05:00Disgusted - You are experiencing what many faculty...Disgusted - You are experiencing what many faculty on this campus have already experienced. This probably explains why they didn't show up for those extra crispy hotdogs. The admin has no interest in your opinion, which has been their position over the bargaining table. Their leadership decides what happens and you WILL follow, especially when it comes to FE, layoffs, furloughs, and DL. If Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-79058168231472201102011-10-27T17:50:01.058-05:002011-10-27T17:50:01.058-05:00Anonymous 4:08 I have only been at this university...Anonymous 4:08 I have only been at this university four years now, so I don't believe I have enough experience to agree or disagree with your statement. I arrived also under the previous 2006-2010 contract, although I do remember that the very last dregs of the contract negotiations were going on while I was interviewing here. So, unlike others who have been around longer, I have no Disgustednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-39546042111169394512011-10-27T16:08:37.015-05:002011-10-27T16:08:37.015-05:00Disgusted - You are experiencing what many faculty...Disgusted - You are experiencing what many faculty on this campus have already experienced. The FA has no interest in your opinion. Their leadership decides what happens and you WILL follow. If you don't you will be accused of being anti-union and/or pro-administration. There is no room on this campus for differing opinions!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-61467551622072656572011-10-27T15:46:00.409-05:002011-10-27T15:46:00.409-05:00Furthermore, if this thing is not resolved by next...Furthermore, if this thing is not resolved by next Wednesday night, I will be walking the picket line along with everyone else. I will do this out of solidarity to my colleagues even though I have some reservations. By continuing to engage in incendiary rhetoric, all you are achieving is burning bridges with moderate faculty like myself, who want to do the right thing by our colleagues as well Disgustednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-75397423819602908562011-10-27T08:55:15.360-05:002011-10-27T08:55:15.360-05:00I agree with 8:46 AM, the "war zone" rhe...I agree with 8:46 AM, the "war zone" rhetoric is out of place. We are in a struggle, a serious one, but we will work with each other and with this administration after this round of contract talks is resolved.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-43274350269819799902011-10-27T08:50:31.670-05:002011-10-27T08:50:31.670-05:00I think it is unlikely the admin or Cheng is behin...I think it is unlikely the admin or Cheng is behind the FSN. If they were the FSN would not be proposing something as absurd as having the Faculty Senate bargain contracts. As for the timing, I agree the FSN is trying to disrupt the negotiations. They may feel that a strike would play in their favor and/or that the weaker the contract we settle on the easier it will be to blame the FA. I considerMikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-74691478288009341832011-10-27T08:46:26.144-05:002011-10-27T08:46:26.144-05:00This is not a "war zone" and metaphors m...This is not a "war zone" and metaphors matter.<br /><br />Individual voices are not representative of a collective, but one thread within a complex system of many perspectives.<br /><br />Choices and alliances are considered actions, not mental health indicators.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-47980359443452155712011-10-26T22:37:39.198-05:002011-10-26T22:37:39.198-05:00Well, the last I checked, this is still a universi...Well, the last I checked, this is still a university, and will still have to function as one when this is all done and over with. One where we make it our mission day in and day out to teach our students to think logically and rationally about the world they live in, to ask probing questions, to engage in disagreement and debate (albeit civilly). If we cannot do that here, as faculty, who are Disgustednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-47942140795217568512011-10-26T22:21:25.374-05:002011-10-26T22:21:25.374-05:00Disgusted, Again, you show your total ignorance of...Disgusted, Again, you show your total ignorance of union procedures and tactics for such a situation. The FSN has chosen this time to deliberately undermine what progress and solidarity (something you don't give a damn about as your previous posts reveal)show. Why should the FA "confront this challenge head on and submit itself to a vote of confidence" at this crucial time? To do soAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-31154475062203481252011-10-26T19:50:19.713-05:002011-10-26T19:50:19.713-05:00Anonymous 2:06 What proof do you have to base your...Anonymous 2:06 What proof do you have to base your allegations on? Rather than tear into people and accuse them of ulterior motives, wouldn't it be better to argue against the FSN's proposal on its merits? <br /><br />I say this for two reasons. First, it would aid in maintaining a decorous atmosphere at this university at this moment. If this blog is any indication in recent days, Disgustednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-15596193098404606282011-10-26T16:59:54.311-05:002011-10-26T16:59:54.311-05:00Anon, 2:06. No surprise at all. Another pathetic a...Anon, 2:06. No surprise at all. Another pathetic action from "Rita's pets."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-30066489192837679652011-10-26T14:13:36.466-05:002011-10-26T14:13:36.466-05:00All this talk of civility and the need for civilit...All this talk of civility and the need for civility is awfully boring! Can there be just one standard or norm for civility? Definitely not! Also it is a question of how something is perceived. For example, I may not intend to be uncivil but the hearer/reader could be extra sensitive and perceive someone's speech or writing as being uncivil. So who's standard is it that we are using to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-27400238093783625352011-10-26T14:06:23.917-05:002011-10-26T14:06:23.917-05:00The FSN people have announced that they will begin...The FSN people have announced that they will begin seeking signatures for their petition to get rid of the FA and replace it with nothing or with the Faculty Senate beginning on October 31, 2011. Is anybody surprised at this date--just before the strike date (Nov 3, 2011). This whole FSN thing is no doubt orchestrated by Cheng, Psohard and the Board of Trustees. Shame of them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-52168686752980336782011-10-25T00:01:21.355-05:002011-10-25T00:01:21.355-05:00I say, good riddance to Dave. Jonny has been tryin...I say, good riddance to Dave. Jonny has been trying to be clear about some pretty complex stuff, and I for any rate have learned a bunch from what he's been saying.Dave Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100006856645294730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-14645377335176496652011-10-24T19:35:06.843-05:002011-10-24T19:35:06.843-05:00Ha! Dave will be so happy to hear he's alread...Ha! Dave will be so happy to hear he's already missed.<br /><br />Fair enough. Apologies all, for my long windedness above. We strayed into a topic of significant professional interest for me. <br /><br />I'm not sure I conceptualized my role here as some sort of neutral moderator with greater expectations for my discourse, but okay. Good to know.<br /><br />Grant me a little time for Jonny Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04461895600346750968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-22949226093961816092011-10-24T19:09:36.963-05:002011-10-24T19:09:36.963-05:00Mister X, Good points especially in reference to w...Mister X, Good points especially in reference to what Richard France on wellesnet.com. refers to "that monumental waste of time known as faculty meetings." Your last paragraph is very relevant to the common dilemma we all face now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-83937208476652100902011-10-24T18:05:00.433-05:002011-10-24T18:05:00.433-05:00Whoa. Jonny Gray's comment about the mental di...Whoa. Jonny Gray's comment about the mental disorder should have ended with "I'm sorry if you took offense" and move on. But Jonny really dug a grave with his longwinded pontificating about the meaning of "may" and "is." I'm only waiting for a blue dress to complete the dissembling and hole digging. Wow. <br /><br />As moderator, you need to restrain Bring Back Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-69069278918695846382011-10-24T17:03:19.531-05:002011-10-24T17:03:19.531-05:00Thank you, Mike, for reminding us of the 93 NTT. ...Thank you, Mike, for reminding us of the 93 NTT. At the time none of the 93 affected asked the NTT bargaining team to cave and accept a bad agreement. We resisted the threat and the administration caved instead. Our agreement with the administration was simple: they agreed to rescind the layoffs and the NTTFA agreed not to file a ULP or sue. Our lesson was to hang tough and hang together. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-64547365595838997482011-10-24T16:47:27.954-05:002011-10-24T16:47:27.954-05:00So one does not respond to provocation? This sound...So one does not respond to provocation? This sounds very much like the "civil" discussion ideology we have been hearing so much about lately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3492014659405332380.post-52273877096683275972011-10-24T16:42:18.280-05:002011-10-24T16:42:18.280-05:00You do all realize that this is a public discussio...You do all realize that this is a public discussion, don't you? Would you say all this in a crowded elevator? Or at a mall, with strangers listening?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com